Saturday, October 15, 2011

If An Apostle Gives Space To Prophets To “Operate,” Is That Indicative Of Ranking?



"Together, we are his house, built on the foundation of the apostles and the prophets. And the cornerstone is Christ Jesus himself. We are carefully joined together in him, becoming a holy temple for the Lord." Ephesians 2:20-21 NLT
I have always wondered why people see rank in the Body of Christ? When I interpret dreams (which I seldom do) I know that vehicles, boats, airplanes in a dream are usually indicators of ministry or ministries. Can even be a church.

That's why when a friend made the statement about space, I heard the Lord speak in terms of Ministry and vehicles.

Do apostles give space to Prophets to "Operate"?

Prophets reveal to Apostles where that Space IS. A church will tip if the foundations are one sided. See the passage above.

Consider the ministry an Apostle is head of as an automobile, a modern automobile.

The Apostle steers the car, starts it, shuts it off, people see the driver, he's visible. It's his car. Yet, he drives blind without the Prophet.

The Prophet keeps the headlights on, the turn signals working, the GPS connected, the windshield clean, the rear view mirrors properly adjusted, the speedometer accurate, the gas gauge showing how long before a pause is needed and if something is wrong in the engine blinks a trouble light saying so.

The apostle may keep driving without any of those things in his "Space" operating, but he will soon go off course, run out of gas and likely crash. I don't consider it a giving, but a responsibility to be what God called me to be, a Holy Ghost Safety equipment complex for the Apostolic car.

In the old days, there were no headlights on cars, or they were very dim. No tail lights. No turn signals (I owned a car with no turn signals). No GPS. You knew by putting a stick in the tank how far you could go till you needed more gas, many cars had no mirrors, no engine trouble light. Cars didn't go far or fast and there were a lot more accidents. The Prophetic metaphorically speaking has given Apostles the ability to find the space they need.

I have knows some reckless driving Apostles. They should be arrested. Most crash before.

If as a Prophet I give a wrong reading or am reflecting an improper image in the mirror or don't keep the windshield clean, I'm not doing my job and need to be replaced or repaired.

Even the GPS in my car sometimes wants to take me down a road in areas I am unfamiliar with. It has a route that will get me there more directly and more safely. IF I am driving, sometimes I will over ride it's direction. IF I know the route clearly, I am OK. IF it's new to me...and I guess. I end up in a dead end. It's happened more times than I will admit.

I know a lot of Apostles who know how to drive but think they have a built in GPS. They think all the other things the Prophetic brings are window dressing. They are like the game some kids play, they turn the lights off and drive fast in the dark to prove how instinctive they are.

Eventually if they keep up that pattern, the world has a name for them...Casualties.

Look at the disasters in big ministries over the last few years. I keep asking the question, who was his Prophet? Why weren't they doing their job. How did it not come that the warning light blinked radically and insistently?

Apostles NEED Prophets, the don't make space for them. If they ignore or disregard, they are flying blind headed for a fall.

From the blog of a guy that calls himself "Prophet Gene."

Saturday, October 8, 2011

A Victorious Eschatology




For a few generations, the American church has held to a theology that God is challenging today. With all the "End of the world" prophecies and fears circulating the globe today, it's not surprising that God is addressing end times theology.

Hal Linsay's hit The Late Great Planet Earth popularized the belief that the righteous shall be "raptured" and sucked out of their shoes. This idea was unheard of until the early 1800s when a 15-year-old Scottish girl had an unusual vision. It's reported that some men in her day were lacking in their ministry and seized the opportunity to promote a new doctrine of sorts. John Nelson Darby, a British evangelical preacher and founder of the Plymouth Brethren, is often credited as the first to publish it.

If you've read the Left Behind series by Tim LaHaye and Jerry Jenkins, you're familiar with the doctrine in question. There has been a rise in what Businessweek is calling The Rapture Profiteers.

This perspective is losing ground. Believers around the world are questioning this long-unquestioned theology, and discovering that there is very little biblical support for it. One excellent book questioning this theology is The Rapture Exposed, by Barbara Rossing. The one that shook my roots is Raptureless, by Dr. Jonathan Welton.

And the best theological foundation of a more biblical perspective may be apostle Harold Eberle's Victorious Eschatology. In the videos below, Harold explains much of the content of the book.

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Saturday, October 1, 2011

Job's Guide - The Prophet




A look at the prophet through the eyes of Job - written by Michael Sawh, originally published here.

The other day, I saw that Job 39 contains a wealth of insights into the 5-fold ministries of apostle, prophet, evangelist, pastor and teacher - everyone is called to operate within these functions at some level of intensity or influence, as the seasons of life turn...I'm starting at the end of the chapter v26-30.

5 of the lessons for prophets can be summarised:

1) seek wisdom and its timing
2) ascend and guard your position
3) abide and depend
4) focus and see the bigger picture
5) grow in grace and be ready for warfare

1) seek wisdom and its timing

verse 26: “Does the hawk fly by your wisdom,
And spread its wings toward the south?"

This verse is a question - prophetic ministry arises from a conversation with heaven, an intimate relationship with God.

The foundation is seeking and listening to the wisdom of God. There is no other way to fly.
The spreading of wings here, speaks to me of the vulnerability required, the beauty of a purpose fulfulled and a constant reaching out to heaven.

Birds know when to head south - prophets are also particularly sensitive to the times and seasons as well as the specific timing to deliver a revelation.

There's something on discernment here, too: discerning between false and true revelation can be like judging between a hawk and an eagle (verse 27), which look similar from afar and to the untrained eye. Keys to discernment: getting closer to Christ and working with the Holy Spirit to improve your vision.

2) ascend and guard your position

verse 27: Does the eagle mount up at your command,
And make its nest on high?"

Worship is key to the prophetic, being inspired and enpowered by the Holy Spirit to rise and encounter the living God.

Prophets need to be diligent in operating from their true position "seated in heavenly places" (ephesians 2:6), ie making your nest on high.

3) abide and depend

verse 28: On the rock it dwells and resides,
On the crag of the rock and the stronghold."

On the rock speaks to me of the centrality of the Word, the unchanging ground and infallible plumbline to test truth.
On the crag suggests to me the necessity of taking risks as well a firm revelation of security within Christ.

4) focus and see the bigger picture

verse 29: From there it spies out the prey;
Its eyes observe from afar.

Being seated in heavenly places gives the proper perspective, both to focus on what's specifically important and the broader picture.

Prophets are given insights into people, events, strategies and opportunities which can enable the Bride to become more beautiful, fruitful and effective.

5) grow in grace and be ready for warfare

verse 30 Its young ones suck up blood;
And where the slain are, there it is.”

"Young ones suck up blood" speaks to me of the mistakes related to growing in the prophetic often requiring much forgiveness!
Prophetic ministry should naturally minister and multiply grace.

"And where the slain are, there it is” reminds me that a prophetic life is one of spiritual warfare. Prophets are sent to speak life where death holds sway, to be vessels of water in the desert, to build amidst the ruins, to bringing blessing to widows and orphans, to encourage the weak and defeated, to warn the proud and indifferent...

good sesh, now for a cup of tea :)

Saturday, September 17, 2011

Eckhardt on Apostles and Prophets

John Eckhardt is one of the clearest apostolic voices in America today. Here he's teaching on a subject near and dear to this blog: how apostles and prophets work together, and how to raise up a prophetic community within your church.

Saturday, August 27, 2011

Titles In The Body Of Christ




This blog is a place where apostles, prophets and other interested parties co-labor in equipping the saints for the work of ministry. Our view is that all believers are called as ministers of reconciliation through the new covenant, which was initiated by our high priest and chief apostle; Jesus Christ.

I’ve been thinking for a while about the different titles we use in the body of Christ. Most of us know someone who is referred to as ‘minister’, ‘pastor’, ‘prophet’ ‘apostle’ or some other title. If you’re prone to using a title, please bear with me as I walk through this discussion. It’s not my intent to offend you.

Some of us use a title as a practical means to let others know what type of ministry we function in. Some use a title regularly, while others rarely use one outside of direct ministry. Some insist on being referred to by a title, while others are uncomfortable being called by one.

This week I did a Facebook survey on titles used in the church. The responses were varied and interesting. Many Christians are opposed to the use of titles, while others see them as indispensable. Some believe they create problems and others think we’d have chaos without them. Some point to a need for structure and order, which they believe is enhanced by the use of titles. Some see titles as an artificial construct designed to create hierarchies of power, a caste system, and a separation between professional ministers and laity, which denies the priesthood of all believers.

Some point out that titles are mentioned in the New Testament and as such, they’re use is authorized. Others see these same terms not as formal titles, but as a description of how we function in the anointing of God.

Finally, some worry about the motives at work in the hearts of those who take titles, suggesting that insecurity, pride and a desire for power and recognition are the real reasons they’re used.

Like most subjects that are hotly debated, there are valid arguments on both sides. To shed some light on the matter, I’d like to take a look at how Jesus approached the subject of titles.

When Jesus walked the streets of Israel, he took for himself the strange name, “son of man”. Although he could have taken a more dignified title, like “Son of God” or “Messiah”, he chose not to. He was content to call himself by the same odd name God gave to Ezekiel. In doing so, he deliberately kept the greater part of his identity a secret. The speculation surrounding his identity provided a forum for some of the most profound moments of his ministry.

His identity was nearly always revealed as a result of a personal encounter arranged by the Father. After Jesus revealed the secrets of her life, the Samaritan woman turned to him and said, “Sir, I perceive you to be a prophet”. Later she would learn that he was in fact the long –awaited Messiah. After a similar encounter, Thomas fell at his feet, confessing him to be “My Lord and my God.”

Jesus would at times ask his disciples, “Who do men say that I am?” The follow-up question required them to say who they thought he was. It took direct revelation from God before Peter finally got it. As much as he concealed his identity, once it was revealed, it became the foundation upon which Christ would build his ecclesia. Most of the pseudo – Christian cults have one common error; they don’t understand the real identity of Jesus.

Jesus knew his identity, but he always relied on others to reveal it unless someone asked him directly. This didn’t please the religious leaders who chided him saying, “How long will you keep us guessing? If you are the Messiah, tell us plainly.” During his trial, Pilate asked, “Are you the king of the Jews?” In both cases, Jesus didn’t deny his identity but affirmed who he was.

Knowing that so much confusion would ensue over his identity, isn’t it strange that Jesus didn’t more plainly declare who he was? Why didn’t he use any of the titles at his disposal?

Explaining his reluctance to openly tell people who he was, he said, “If I bear witness of myself, my witness is false. But there is another who bears witness of me and I know his witness is true.” (John 5:31- 32) Jesus explicitly taught that we aren’t to bear witness to our own ministry.

No where was the identity of Jesus more clearly revealed than at his baptism, where the Father, the Spirit and John all confirmed his identity. Nowhere was the humility of Christ more evident than in his reliance on them to make his identity known. It’s interesting that the majority of Satan’s plan of attack in the wilderness was to question his identity, immediately after it had been verified.

The model Jesus established for us was one of humble submission to the will of the Father and reliance on the testimony of others to reveal his identity. If we’re looking for an example on how to handle titles and our identity, we need look no further. Jesus received the testimony of who he was and never questioned it thereafter. But he didn’t loudly proclaim to everyone who he was. He had an inner confidence that allowed him to quietly go about his Father’s business.

Several years ago, I had a dream in which God revealed the fivefold calling I was to function in. In the dream, three men in the same calling handed me a scroll they had signed, testifying to the fact that I was called to the same calling they were. God had secretly revealed to me my calling. It wasn’t done publicly and he’s never asked me to make it known publicly. But since then he has revealed it to a number of other people.

Most of them have become friends and ministry partners as a result of God’s revelation. In one meeting, a friend put me on the spot asking, “Who are you, in God’s eyes?” I felt uncomfortable telling him. I was new to the calling and wasn’t sure I could walk it out, nor was I sure I wanted to. But God told him about my calling and since then he’s been a great source of encouragement. It happened that he had likewise received a new calling he was struggling in, which God revealed to me. Neither one of us liked using the titles, but together we grew to walk in them in more confidently and obediently.

Every now and then a complete stranger will declare my calling to me and give me a prophetic word about what God has planned for my life. I cherish these few but rich moments when God reveals his secrets through men and women whose hearts are listening to him. Personally, I think we greatly underestimate the willingness of God to speak to others about who we are as ambassadors of his kingdom.

I’m not against people who use titles. If God has asked you to use one, by all means do so. Guard your heart against pride and don’t let the title go to your head. If you don’t use a title – remember that pride doesn’t need a title in which to take root. We can all become a victim to it. True humility agrees with God’s assessment of our calling; neither denying who we are when asked nor thinking more highly of ourselves than we ought to.

Titles can be useful in some practical ways, but the more I learn about the kingdom of God, the less it looks like the practical world around me. Men tend to value pragmatism – if it works, we generally approve of it, regardless of whether or not it reflects the kingdom.

I know there are those who believe that having a title will grant them access to ministry, but this is not true. Ministry opportunities aren't granted (at least not genuine ones) because we have a title. They're granted because we've established relationships and God has opened a door. None of that requires a title and because some Christians are put off or intimidated by titles, it may actually work against us.

As for me, God hasn't asked me to use a title yet, so I don’t use one. But He could give me a dream tonight that would change all of that.

A wise woman once said, “Whatever he tells you – do it.”


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